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Reassessing Career Development In The Wake Of The Great Resignation with Julie Winkle Giulioni (Ep. #46)

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Building Better Managers Podcast Episode 46 - Julie Winkle Giulioni

Building Better Managers Podcast Episode #46: Reassessing Career Development In The Wake Of The Great Resignation with Julie Winkle Giulioni

The Great Resignation is being fueled by a lot of different factors, but employee development has emerged as a major player. Research shows that 94% of employees are staying longer in organizations where they feel like there’s an investment being made in their development. And employees that actually like their current jobs are still almost 8 TIMES more eager to leave if they’re not seeing that commitment to development.

Julie Winkle Giulioni returns to the podcast to talk about how the ideas in her new book "Why Are Promotions So Yesterday?" can help managers and leaders navigate the current risks and challenges when dealing with promotions, careers, career development, and employee satisfaction and retention.

In this episode:

Meet Julie Winkle Giulioni

  • Julie is a champion for workplace growth and development, and helps executives and leaders optimize talent and potential within their organizations.
  • One of Inc. Magazine’s Top 100 speakers, she’s the author of Promotions Are So Yesterday: Redefine Career Development, Help Employees Thrive, and the co-author of the international bestseller, Help Them Grow or Watch Them Go: Career Conversations Organizations Need and Employees Want.
  • Julie is a regular columnist for Training Industry Magazine and SmartBrief and contributes articles on leadership, career development, and workplace trends to numerous publications including The Economist.

The Great Resignation & How It Is Affecting Career Development

  • Many of us are still reeling from the effects of of this pandemic and the implications for our lives over the last couple of years - individual careers really are taking very different trajectories.
  • When you look at what people are looking for, after two years of this kind of on again off again, working from home, not having the commute, seeing your kids every day, seeing them grow up, folks are looking at their relationship with work differently. They're wanting a different relationship with work, and employee/career development plays a key role in all of that.

The Answer: Multi-Dimensional Career Development

  • The Multi-Dimensional Career Development framework is at the heart of the new book, "Promotions Are So Yesterday."
  • Our research shows that the assumptions that so many managers have about what people want simply don't square with the reality of what people actually want. We did a validation study with over 700 folks and had them go through our eight dimensions: Contribution, Competence, Connection, Cconfidence, Challenge, Contentment, Choice, and Climb.
  • The results were absolutely stunning: Contribution and Competence were numbers one and two. Then came Connection, Confidence, Challenge, Contentment, Choice. Climb - growth through promotions - was dead last.
  • In many organizations, these conversations aren't moving forward because of that misconception that all that matters to people is moving up the ladder.
  • Making progress in the areas that matter is absolutely possible when the manager and the employees work together. They control that they can make choices to find ways to grow those dimensions in ways that may not be available when it comes to promotions and positions.

The Ladder vs The Climbing Wall

  • The challenge with climbing the ladder is that it's out of the unilateral control of managers and supervisors - you can't just promote anyone any time you want to.
  • So the other dimensions offer a healthy, productive way forward, in addition to the promotion incentive.
  • So if someone is really looking forward to that rise up into management, understanding what some of their other dimensions of interests are, and be able to say, "For you to be ready when that position opens up, it's going to be really important that you have a strong network and the ability to make solid relationships, and I've noticed that Connection is really an interest of yours. What can we be doing right now to build those?"
  • Conversations like that need to happen to lay a foundation that continually strengthens your team and every member in it.
  • Keep asking yourself, "What else are they interested in developing?" Finding ways that we can engineer the path to improving those areas helps people grow in the moment, prepare for the future, and maintain their motivation.

Downloads & Resources

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Julie Winkle Giulioni

Julie Winkle Giulioni is a champion for workplace growth and development and helps executives and leaders optimize talent and potential within their organizations. One of Inc. Magazine’s Top 100 speakers, she’s the author of Promotions Are So Yesterday: Redefine Career Development. Help Employees Thrive and the co-author of the international bestseller, Help Them Grow or Watch Them Go: Career Conversations Organizations Need and Employees Want, translated into seven languages.

Julie is a regular columnist for Training Industry Magazine and SmartBrief and contributes articles on leadership, career development, and workplace trends to numerous publications including The Economist.

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